Usmc cqb pistol frames cracking

The guns that marines get is not the same pistol consumers get. Both processes provide frames that are about 200% stronger than they need to be. Up for your bidding pleasure is the ultra rare colt cqb pistol. Nov 08, 2017 a glock 19m at the 2016 modern day marine expo in quantico, virginia.

Dec 04, 2014 the article talks generically about 1911s and doesnt specifically mention the marine corps cqb m45. Buy licensed usmc marines marine corps seal 1911 semper fidelis pistol grips diamond cut made of pewter. Tokyo marui m45a1 black gas blowback pistol now available. Test pistols numbers 11, 12, 14 and 15 all showed safetycritical cracks and one failed completely.

The marine corps special operations command detachment 1 det 1 was formed on march 3rd, 2003, they needed to acquire a large amount of unique and sophisticated equipment. Ft collins, co on pistols for the usmc, from a friend in a position to know. The m45a1 close quarters battle pistol cqbp was announced on july 20, 2012, chosen from three submissions to a 2010 solicitation handed down by marine corps systems command marcorsyscom. The marine corps just completed an exhaustive search for a new marsoc pistol in 2012. Text is a rough translation using an online translation tool. Sticky for all colt usmc cqb m45 factual information. I bet the new cqb rifle will be the thompson machine gun with a rail. The usmc s demand for pistols has nothing to do with commercial sales of custom shop pistols. I am delighted to see that some united states marine corps units are carrying an americanmade pistol, chambered for the 45 acp cartridge, and built by an american icon. The cqb is a fullsize 1911a1, made with a carbonsteel frame and slide for the greatest strength and durability. It was determined that an interim cqb pistol would be pr. In honor of the brave men and women who serve our country, this m45a1 is the same gun issued to them, minus their usmc stamp.

A renewed effort, begun in 2008 resulting in the recently approved combat pistol program cpp in 20. The usmc marking was xed out by laser before being released to the civilian market. Original production guns were rollmarked colt usmc. This example is some 40 years old yet its synthetic frame remains fully serviceable despite quite a bit of hard use. Many of these pistols were owned and used by target shooters who shot them extensively, and if cracking of anything frequently happened the word would be out. Fuel was added to the fire when solider systems broke the news that in military tests the colt 1911 rail gun exhibited cracking after 12,000 rounds. Why the marines adopted the m45 colt 1911 the firearm blog. Marines allow operators to choose glocks over marsoc. Jul 20, 2012 the marine corps has tapped colt defense llc to make more than 10,000 new close quarter battle pistols for the services elite special operations troops. Colt sent the marines 15 modified rail gun 1911s for evaluation early this year. The colt rail gun is not the same thing as the cqbm45.

Cast vs forged 1911s 1911addicts the premiere 1911 forum. Nothing in the decoration added to the basic firearm including the informational content therein is used as a trademark. Colt cqb m45a1 usmc marine 1911 decom authentic layaway. Upswept beavertail grip safety, lowered and flared ejection port and enhanced hamm. The m45a1 was initially designed to serve as the marine corps usmc. Cqb reflex sights piggybacked on the elcan 4x scopes.

In new in the box unfired condition, we have a 1969 production colt agent revolver. The cartouches and stock markings are very clear, including the cartouche on top of the hand guard which is rarely ever. In an article by the marine corps times, marine special operations. Ive heard of and seen a few 1911 frames cracking, often from excessively hot handloads or.

Some early reports of cracks in the slide and overpressured ammo causing frame. Sort by position product name price set descending direction. In december of 1987 and january of 1988 routine lot testing of the m9 production pistols revealed frame cracks occurring at the rear of the grip area of the frame. The slide, railintegrated frame, and various levers are unified in black, and the g10 type grip also uses the color exclusive for this model. Each attempt was met with friction due to time or resources restrictions.

The dimension of the rails remain exactly the same as the stock pistols so that i can use stock components in the builds. On the left side of the slide is the standard kimber logo and on the chamber is stamped cal. Professional grade 1911 frame parts fusion firearms. Our glock lower frames come with nextgeneration features and ergonomics to ensure a perfect and highly. In an article by the marine corps times, marine special operations command marsoc, has officially announced that it is withdrawing the. Choose from different options of the polymer80 pf940c compact 80% frame, available in gray, od green, flat dark earth, and black. While 12k rounds may seem like a lot to a private owner you have to remember that these guns are being planned on being used for years, by multiple soldiers each. This is one of the colt 1911s that was sent to the marine corp and then decommissioned.

The usmc precision weapons section, in quantico, virginia, has been custombuilding 1911s for the marine corps elite special operations and reconnaissance units since 1985, first as the. In excellent mint crisp condition, all matching down to the screws, we have a very scarce gustloffwerke manufactured 337 code 1940 dated k98k mauser service rifle. According to one of the stress test reports several of the pistols had cracked slides and frames after 12,000 rounds. Select a make 1911 2011 accuii accumag accuracy international aero agnstadt arms ak47 ak74 akm american defense mfg american tactical imports amt anschutz apf ar. Jul 20, 2012 these rather interesting photos come from test report for the close quarters battle pistol cqbp bid samples, phase ii and are of colt test articles from the cqb pistol solicitation which was just awarded to colt yesterday. This usmc pistol marksman license plate is made from heavy gauge aluminum and has a baked enamel finish to last for many years of use. The venerable colt 1911 semiautomatic pistol a design thats now well over 100 years old has long been replaced in its. In addition, the internal mechanism of the m45a1 cqb pistol is inherited as it is, and the recoil s. Only the sig sauer p320, with a serialized core frame and the ability to swap different grip lengths and slidebarrel combinations, seems to. Sticky for all colt usmc cqb m45 factual information 1911forum. From what i have been told, marines get assembly line guns made on the production floor at colt. I agree that the use of highvelocity ammunition is unwise unless the pistol is set up for it. Although navy marked 1911 pistols have been issued to the united states marine corps over the years, the kimber icqb pistol is the first 1911 service pistol to ever carry the usmc designation.

Forging is nice because the process aligns the grain structure of the metal. Earlier, the socom entity had simply authorized the. A pistol is a secondary weapon so mag capacity isnt really an issue considering your rank and file soldier or marine isnt even issued a pistol at all. The slide and rail integrated frame, various levers are unified in black, and the g10 type grip also uses the color dedicated to this model. The images used on our license plates are sized to be as visible as possible. Glock custom work for the first time, wilson combat is now offering custom pistol enhancements for glock handguns. Spend less time worrying if your battery is going to hold up and more time planning your next move in the field of battle.

Sep 18, 2017 marines and sailors will take part in the current testing of the new army handgun while one of the top small arms experts for the corps is looking to adopt a compact version of the sidearm for. Colt m45cqb united states marine corps 45 acp semi. Colt custom shop usmc m45a1 cqb 1911 semi auto pistols. This version is just like the marine corps pistol, but it comes with a compact otis cleaning kit, and is packed into a pelican storm case. It appears that the last active duty component of the u. The colt rail gun, or colt marine pistol, has been selected by the united states marine corps as their close quarters battle pistol cqbp. Man those dan wesson guys know how to make cool 1911s page. The cqb s frame is thicker with a true picatinny rail, the slide has fewer serrations, it uses dual recoil springs, it has trijicon night sights, etc. Marsoc authorized to use glock 19s soldier systems daily. The picatinny rail on the bottom of the frame is a full size mil.

After a rigorous selection process, the united states marine corps selected the colt rail gun as their close quarters battle pistol cqbp. Its a variant of the m1911, and has been the standardissue side arm for the force recon element of the united states marine corps marine expeditionary units since 1985. Take advantage of our numerous options, including armortuff coatings, tactical sights, matchgrade barrels, our signature starburst polymer frame stippling, and more. Test article photos of marsoc winning colt rail guns soldier.

This includes 2 6round magazines, cleaning kit, mag. Sell your colt marine 45 for free today on gunsamerica. A black color version of the m45a1 cqb pistol adopted by the us marine corps is now available. We are pleased to inform you that these decommissioned colt m45a1s close quarter battle pistol cqbp are now available to the public. The reason is that if you are going for the custom shop cqb you might want to check out gun broker. The outofthebox rateoffire power of this rifle will move you up the ranks in a hurry. All of our 80% glock frames are designed to fit compact models of glock pistols, including the 19, 23 and 32 models. The m9a1 is also seeing limited issue to the united states marine corps. More than 100 years ago, the colt 1911 was chosen as the official sidearm for americas armed forces. Its a limited production run where they changed the color.

Colt usmc 1911 m45a1 close quarters battle pistol in. Feb 19, 2015 the marine corps has authorized marsoc operators to carry glock pistols, since many of the elite outfits members prefer the popular 9mm over the custom. Colt, springfield armory, and karl lippard designs offered a replacement for the ageold rebuilt. Today, a colt 1911 is once again proudly serving at the side of our countrys military. The cqbs frame is thicker with a true picatinny rail, the slide has fewer serrations. Unlike the cqb pistol, this one does not have usmc roll marked on the slide, but it does have ega eagle globe and anchor the marines symbol as a serial number suffix. Usmc announces close quarter battle pistol contract award. This license plate would make a wonderful addition to your collection or a great gift. Everything else free delivery possible on eligible purchases. Its also available with an accessory rail or even with an aluminum frame and an accessory rail, but the standardbearer and big seller for wilson combat is the allsteel cqb.

Sig sauer grip module assembly compact 320 xseries black medium. The pistol has been out since 09 and the only cosmetic difference between the usmc contract gun is the fde finish, the novak night sights and a lanyard loop and the size and the m45a1 is a true picatinny rail along with a dual recoil spring system on the usmc gun. In december of 1987 and january of 1988 routine lot testing of the m9 production pistols revealed frame cracks occurring at the rear of the grip area of the frame just above where the trigger bar rides. The marine corps has tapped colt defense llc to make more than 10,000 new close quarter battle pistols for the services elite special operations troops. Colt was recently awarded their first pistol contract on a 1911 pistol since the early 1950s. Man those dan wesson guys know how to make cool 1911s discussion in m1911 started by snaphook, feb 29, 2016. Marine corps is following the army and air force in adopting sig modular handgun system m17 and m18 pistols for service. Offered by polymer80, these glock 192332 frames include industry firsts, such as an extended beaver tail, double undercut. Stop the polymer pistols suck argument, because youre wrong. The colt rail gun is not the same thing as the cqb m45. Both crimson and black grips, manual, and commemorative box. This brand new glock 43 is a semiautomatic pistol which fires the 9mm round. Marine corps has adopted an updated version of the gunthe m45 cqb, or, in.

Jul 30, 2012 the pistol has been out since 09 and the only cosmetic difference between the usmc contract gun is the fde finish, the novak night sights and a lanyard loop and the size and the m45a1 is a true picatinny rail along with a dual recoil spring system on the usmc gun. Jeff schogolstaff more marines are carrying the glock 19m as a sidearm while the corps searches for a pistol to replace the. Frames and lower receivers for sale online at discount prices. We carry a great selection of 80% glock and 1911 frames with everything you need to complete your pistol. The beretta m9officially the pistol, semiautomatic, 9mm, m9is the designation for the. Colts new marine corps 1911 prone to frameslide cracks. Key reasons the company went glockcompatible instead is the wide compatibility of a glock17 system, which can provide three different calibers depending on the slide chosen by the user to finish the pistol. They are the ones who actually make people think marines are stupid, but it is really just the brass who makes these dumbass choices which makes everyone of us marines. Colt 1911 custom shop marine cqb fde 45 acp pistol the colt rail gun, or colt marine pistol, has been selected by the united states marine corps as their close quarters battle pistol cqbp, marking the first time since wwii that a colt 1911 is being shipped to the united states government.

The m45a1 was conceived for the usmc special operations units. Black color version of the m45a1 cqb pistol adopted by the u. A letter of authenticity will be issued with each pistol to verify it as a service pistol. Cracking frames the leading glock forum and community. Colt rail gun has seen some publicity regarding cracking in the frame. However i dont think that this is, or ever was, common. Marines evaluating new, compact handgun marine corps. Colt marine pistol m45a1 1070cqb this is the colt rail gun modified to the specifications of the marines for use with special operations.

Similar to the custom shop cqb pistol, this is a production line version of the pistol that the marines bought for the marsoc units. There is a very limited inventory of these used pistols and they will be gone soon. The marine devil dog tribute pistol is issued by a private, nongovernmental organization to honor americas armed forces. My point is this, the conditions of the test for these pistols has not been released. The colt m45a1 cqbp semiautomatic pistol is the latest iteration of the. This is certainly one of the lowest production codes to acquire especially an example as crisp as this one is.

Another problem that cropped up with production of the m9 pistol was a problem with frame cracks. Decommissioned colt usmc m45a1s on gunbroker 1911addicts. Top quality government, commander, and officer sized 1911 frames. Pistol frame material they are basically copies of sti 2011 and sw bodyguard 380, but with some small changes here and there, mostly to accommodate custom grips and features. Savage releases minimalist rimfire rifles just in time for holidays.

Marsoc to drop colt 1911s from service the firearm blog. When you say the civilian version are you talking about the m45 or the cqb. More marines carry glock 19m as corps looks for new pistol. According to the united states marine corps usmc training command, since 1992 the marine corps has made continuous efforts to improve pistol marksmanship training. I was contacted in november to develop a program of instruction poi on the pistol, now called the m45 cqbp. Casting works in most applications but can have voids a gunsmith can cut into and expose unknowingly. The marine corps solution was to suggest m9s, but that was not acceptable to the group. The product mix in the 80% pistol market has always been slim, with only 1911 frames available in steel or aluminum.

Test article photos of marsoc winning colt rail guns. The marine corps selected the colt entry for a reason. People could not understand why the marines would adopt a very generic 1911 pistol when more modern, lighter and higher capacity pistols were readily available. Im not one to contradict kyle lamb because i admire the guy very much, but i dont agree with this. Thompson center encore and pro hunter frames in stainless or blue with free wood or composite stocks as supplied by the factory. Colt 1911 custom shop marine cqb fde 45 acp pistol hyatt. Special operations capable officially designated the m45 meusoc, is a magazinefed, recoiloperated, singleaction, semiautomatic pistol chambered for the.

The marines use the m45 as a secondary weapon when conducting cqb operations. Pentagon seeks new sidearm page 2 shadowspear special. The marine devil dog tribute pistol america remembers. Came with two wilson combat 7 round magazines, novak tritium night sights though they say trijicon on them, can anyone clarify. Also, i would put a custom shop colt o1070cqb up against a wilson, baer or ed brown any day of the week in terms of accuracy and reliability. Encore and pro hunter are essentially the same framereceiver and are compatible with the same barrels. This gun is going to louisiana and the customer is a 3gun and long range rifle shooter.

Since i am kind of a diy guy gone pro and people often ask me about all the steps that i go through in building a pistol, i thought id start a thread here and show photos of the work being performed. Pistol expert badge us marine corps store the marine shop. This batch of colt m45a1 cqbp pistols was used in combat by the usmc special operations units, including force recon. Stop the polymer pistols suck argument, because youre wrong as far as polymer pistols go, the hk vp70 was the worlds first almostsuccessful polymerframed handgun.

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